Post by Uchiha Madara on Jan 19, 2009 22:07:37 GMT -5
That is right, at it seams that way to me. Now, this may seam strange, seeing as Conan has refered to Nagato, however, I will elaborate. My belief is that Pein is in fact the 4th Hokage. I know, this theory has been done to death, but this time, I have a logical reasning behind it that has to do with the Kyuubi attack, yin and Yang chakra sealing, and "That Jutsu."
The Kyuubi attack always was a bit flawed if you ask me. Yondaime was said to be able to summon a creature even more powerful then the nine-tailed fox? So, in the fight, why did he not do just that? The sacrifice was needless if he could summon a creature more powerful then the fox, so what purpose did it serve? Also, the reaper death seal is said to be the jutsu used by the 4th to seal the fox's chakra, however, from what we have seen of it, it has no ability to do that. It seals the soul of the user and an enemy within another dimension/the reaper, and can't seal souls inside of children, let alone half of a soul.
So, what is the answer to all these questions? Simple, the 4th did in fact use his godly summon that night, and that summon was the reaper. This would explain how he could use the reaper to do what he did, only sealing one part of the Fox's chakra in naruto, as if the he had made the contract with the reaper(and thus "invented" the reaper death seal jutsu.) he would be able to use it like any other summon, and order it to do just what he did. However, this would also mean that would still be alive, as the reaper would not steal his soul if he had a summoning contract with it.
This leads to the second part of the theroy, which answeres other important questions. The 4th's strange sealing, only giving naruto half of the fox's chakra, may seam strange at first, however, the reason behind it is tied to another question, how the heck dose the real pein have enough chakra to control all of those bodies? So far, naruto has the most chakra out of the ninja we have seen(Except Pein.), and the reason for it? The nine-tailed fox. To randomly add a ninja that posseses more chakra then naruto can ever hope to have, who dose not have a special reason for it just dose not make sense, as no ninja has ever had as much chakra as Pein has without a special reason. This leads me back to the seal, naruto has half of the fox's chakra, so where did the other half go? To Yondaime.
Yondaime possesses the other half of the Fox's chakra, and is using it to control the Pein bodies, which includes Nagato. Also, the reason Konan says that Nagato is Pein is because to her, he is. You see, Yondaime did not enter Akatsuki himself. He entered it as Nagato(Pein) to hide his identidy. After all, the 4th is to the world dead, so like Madara, he too must wear a mask, the Mask of Nagato.
So, what would his goals be? Why would he give naruto half of his chakra. Simple, it is tied to the prophecy. Yondaime's goal is to have naruto forfill the prophecy of which he is part. Minato had to make the ultimate sacrifice for the world, he had to become the greatest evil ever known to push his son to the limit, make him strong enough to forfill the prophecy, and renew the world.
However, this is where I think Kish will actually do something right in the manga. People where generally upset with the idea of a prophecy dictating things when a theme in part one was that Naruto was a person who grew through hard work, not special gifts. A prophecy is more then a special gift, and in the end, I think that Kishi will show the prophecy to be the driving force behind a misguided Yondaime, who despite his good intentions, caused countless acts of evil in the name of the prophecy. Thus Naruto will reject it once he finds out the truth, and the final battle will be a fight of fate vs. hard work, where naruto will reject Yondaime's path for him, and become strong by himself like he did in part one, his own skill ultimatly beating that of his father's, showing that the younger generation will truly surpass the older one and hard work can overcome fate.
The Kyuubi attack always was a bit flawed if you ask me. Yondaime was said to be able to summon a creature even more powerful then the nine-tailed fox? So, in the fight, why did he not do just that? The sacrifice was needless if he could summon a creature more powerful then the fox, so what purpose did it serve? Also, the reaper death seal is said to be the jutsu used by the 4th to seal the fox's chakra, however, from what we have seen of it, it has no ability to do that. It seals the soul of the user and an enemy within another dimension/the reaper, and can't seal souls inside of children, let alone half of a soul.
So, what is the answer to all these questions? Simple, the 4th did in fact use his godly summon that night, and that summon was the reaper. This would explain how he could use the reaper to do what he did, only sealing one part of the Fox's chakra in naruto, as if the he had made the contract with the reaper(and thus "invented" the reaper death seal jutsu.) he would be able to use it like any other summon, and order it to do just what he did. However, this would also mean that would still be alive, as the reaper would not steal his soul if he had a summoning contract with it.
This leads to the second part of the theroy, which answeres other important questions. The 4th's strange sealing, only giving naruto half of the fox's chakra, may seam strange at first, however, the reason behind it is tied to another question, how the heck dose the real pein have enough chakra to control all of those bodies? So far, naruto has the most chakra out of the ninja we have seen(Except Pein.), and the reason for it? The nine-tailed fox. To randomly add a ninja that posseses more chakra then naruto can ever hope to have, who dose not have a special reason for it just dose not make sense, as no ninja has ever had as much chakra as Pein has without a special reason. This leads me back to the seal, naruto has half of the fox's chakra, so where did the other half go? To Yondaime.
Yondaime possesses the other half of the Fox's chakra, and is using it to control the Pein bodies, which includes Nagato. Also, the reason Konan says that Nagato is Pein is because to her, he is. You see, Yondaime did not enter Akatsuki himself. He entered it as Nagato(Pein) to hide his identidy. After all, the 4th is to the world dead, so like Madara, he too must wear a mask, the Mask of Nagato.
So, what would his goals be? Why would he give naruto half of his chakra. Simple, it is tied to the prophecy. Yondaime's goal is to have naruto forfill the prophecy of which he is part. Minato had to make the ultimate sacrifice for the world, he had to become the greatest evil ever known to push his son to the limit, make him strong enough to forfill the prophecy, and renew the world.
However, this is where I think Kish will actually do something right in the manga. People where generally upset with the idea of a prophecy dictating things when a theme in part one was that Naruto was a person who grew through hard work, not special gifts. A prophecy is more then a special gift, and in the end, I think that Kishi will show the prophecy to be the driving force behind a misguided Yondaime, who despite his good intentions, caused countless acts of evil in the name of the prophecy. Thus Naruto will reject it once he finds out the truth, and the final battle will be a fight of fate vs. hard work, where naruto will reject Yondaime's path for him, and become strong by himself like he did in part one, his own skill ultimatly beating that of his father's, showing that the younger generation will truly surpass the older one and hard work can overcome fate.
Pein DOSE= Nagato